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We haven't tried to integrate the Androids units to control power. We have an existing older system that power cycles and monitors all sorts of stuff (some nothing to do with signage) so we just use that. Iguess you could include a web asset that called a particular URL at switch off time - then our control server would see that incoming call and respond, but we havent really needed that integration just yet.

mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories / Re: Thin Client Setup
« on: February 27, 2013, 12:19:50 PM »
With respect, you dont just get what you pay for - the Windows OS licence is a huge chunks of wasted money that is best avoided if at all possible. On some sites, we install a full HP server running Windows, and if doesnt matter it costs us £400 / $600. Other sites (like the OP I assume if he is talking about cheap thin clients) the hardware cost is more sensitive.

Obviously Linux would have a been a great solution, but as Adobe had pulled Flex theres no point going that way.

I didn't realise that the MediaSignage Android app was so crippled- I assumed it was like for like (or better) with the Windows one. Android as a whole is perfectly capable of 99.9% of media types - you only have to look at the quality of things like XBMC and some of the Android games. I guess MediaSignage will have to up their Android game a little - they are always going to be at the bottom end of the market cost wise, so supporting hardware that is $80 not $600 is going to be a key thing to come for many users, particularly those with big deplotments who might ultimately become the most important customers with private servers etc.

We have Android boxes with Ethernet - never very trusting of wifi and IT people changing passwords. I guess our Ethernet boxes could equally be wifi with an access point, but that starts getting quite messy in terms of cables, power bricks etc.

we still use ethernet connected 'brute force' power switches on ours - not elegant, but it still works!

General discussion on the mediaCLOUD / Re: My Disappointment
« on: February 27, 2013, 08:10:28 AM »
If you are looking for a Mac solution, then this isn't it. But isn't that looking at things the wrong way round? The display devices are dedicated, and should be low cost - the Android suggestion above is a good one and we will be heading that way (once someone else does the bleeding edge research for us!).  As for content scheduling, I'm not sure that any system currently in the market is for use by 'almost anyone' - the range of options that might reasonably be required is simply too great. Don't you also want some editorial control too? ie content sent to you, then you or nominated person uploads and schedules (pereferably on 'any' pc - not a mac!)

mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories / Re: Thin Client Setup
« on: February 27, 2013, 08:04:37 AM »
Assuming you want to stay legal (and putting aside performance issues for a second) why would you want to pay for all those Windows licences when you could do this in Android for hardware that costs less than a legit Windows license on its own?

mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories / Odroid U2
« on: February 27, 2013, 07:56:44 AM »
Anyone got any thoughts or experiences on using one of these as a reasonable meaty Android client?

Do you have any examples / case studies of what people have done with the API, would be interesting to know?

The only relevant thing in pricing is what is it worth to your advertiser/ customer. Your costs are 100% irrelevant. You need to look at what the competition is charging (ie flyposters, door drop leaflets, local paper, radio etc) and how effective they are at converting to real sales compared to you. All mr advertiser cares about is "if i spend $xxx on these screens, will it bring me $yyyy in new profits".

You need to work up a business case on how many people will see the screens (and be able to back it up) and also some stats on how moving dynamic digital images are far more persuasive when well designed than 'lumps of paper'. Have a look at amscreen (UK based big outfit) - their site has some good case studies and stats aimed specifically at small local advertisers.

Enterprise edition, branding and reselling / Re: Powered By...
« on: January 08, 2013, 12:39:44 PM »
. If you want to update the player in front of the customer you will have to go the playstore and update (even if the auto update has been given) and the playstore shows digital signage is free and mediasignage mail id :)

Oh dear. Surely (admin) this can somehow be fixed? Real auto updates - no need to visit some consumer app store?

General discussion on the mediaCLOUD / Re: Updating Android Player
« on: January 08, 2013, 12:33:32 PM »
Anoop - will that affect the video playback speed? Are you seeing a useable bug free product yourself or still have issues? I too would love to buy loads, but saving $200 a player when a truck roll to some sites might cost double that is silly.

mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories / Re: MediaBox-200 V2
« on: January 08, 2013, 12:20:40 PM »
It's an Intel 'Next Unit of Computing' - very Googlable. You can work out the model by the fact it has twin HDMIs.  No inside info here, just some googlefu on the very distinctive case. No idea on the (smallish SSD), but like the memory, not sure it really matters much. 2G of RAM seems a little tight, from what I have seen on 'full size' PC boxes running Win7 (standard not embedded).

mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories / MediaBox-200 V2
« on: January 08, 2013, 11:06:35 AM »
Anyone out there tried one of these? I'm assuming the 'chosen few' have had them in their hands for a few months if this is now a release product. It seems to be an Intel NUC unit with MediaSignage adding the memory and SSD (along with Win 7 embedded). The raw barebone unit in the UK is around $300 (equivelent) so you are effectively paying $250 for memory, SSD, Win 7 licence and the all important integration. Seems like a reasonable deal to me (maybe a $100-120 premium on the parts alone cost?)

I'd love to see some videos of one of these playing out to TWO screens with multiple regions on each, including video and some scrollers - if it does what it says on the tin then they really do seem great value!

The problem with IR is it mimics a single button (normally) so your command is not 'switch on' its 'switch to the opposite of what you are now'. So if someone had already switched a screen on, you would be turning it off, or vice versa. RS232 is not that hard to implement out of a PC (using a USB converter if needed). RS232 commands tend to be more precise!

mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories / Re: Help with 58" screen
« on: December 31, 2012, 10:23:53 AM »
Have you tried the screen with another HDMI device - a DVD maybe or better still another PC with a HDMI out?

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