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community support => mediaPLAYERS, Hardware and accessories => Topic started by: itehno on December 02, 2011, 05:03:34 AM

Title: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: itehno on December 02, 2011, 05:03:34 AM
MAC mini - 2.3 GHz I5, 2GB DDR3, Intel HD 3000 graphics, aluminum case, integrated power supply, Lion OS, price $  599.
On paper, it looks like better choice than any mediaBOX, what do you think? It would be excellent if somebody could share some real life experience with MAC. Also, It would be nice if somebody from Mediasignage could comment this solution.

Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2011, 05:24:06 PM
We had the same idea until actually purchasing a handful of new Mac Mini's and rolling them out on a network. We had a number of major problems; so I would highly advise to stick with the mediaBOX or use a system of your own otherwise on the Windows platform. Save your money and don't make the same mistake we did. :)

Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: itehno on December 06, 2011, 07:55:32 AM
Thank you for response and advise. I would appreciate if you can be more specific, what kind of problems did you have?
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on December 06, 2011, 10:32:08 AM
1st the installation process is different...

The Mac install process for the SignagePlayer Desktop version is different.
Please follow this video tutorial, step by step: 

http://mediasignage.com/html/signage_video.html?videoNumber=Mac

and when an update is pushed , you will need to go thru that process everytime...

Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: itehno on December 08, 2011, 03:42:03 PM
Thank you, I saw this tutorial. Different installation process should not be a problem, but manual update is clearly disadvantage:( Is there any other significant difference, what about stability and reliability in general?
 
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on December 11, 2011, 06:36:20 AM
asides from updates and ext app component (live TV) being unavailable to Macs. stability and reliability is the same with a similarly spec'ed windows computer.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: Dan on December 12, 2011, 09:12:03 AM
The areas we noticed the issues with mac are:

- every time an update was released, the player would go down because it's programmed to auto-update, but once the update is applied, it won't start back up because you have to manually install it again.

- Some of the features aren't supported such as remote reboot, power up/down, scheduling of restart, etc. This needs to be a manual process also.

- We also noticed it would restart playback quite a bit. Probably 20 times/day.

It works, but for some environments it's not ideal. It would depend on the application and what you are using the signage player for to decide if a mac is ok or not.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: itehno on December 14, 2011, 12:39:25 AM
Thank you, I am convinced. This brings up one interesting point, system that is supposed to be multiplatform and platform independent, in reality works with full potential on Windows based PC only ....
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on December 14, 2011, 04:51:59 PM
That is not accurate. We fully support macs as well. But, every system has it's pros and cons.
Windows is preferred for performance, linux for price and mac for... well for mac fanatics :)
We do intend on improving the one thing mac lack right now which is auto-update on major releases only and that's coming...
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: itehno on December 17, 2011, 06:47:34 AM
I like your platform, and I understand your position, but please, let's be realistic.

Adobe abandoned AIR for Linux (there will be no new AIR versions). Basically, what's done is done, some functions are not supported, and there is no room for performance improvements.
Linux is free, but hardware is not, hardware requirements for the same performance are already much higher on Linux.

You announced that your new Windows desktop player will fully support hardware acceleration, so cheap Intel Atom based, and similar AMD systems, should be enough. Further, because of low power consumption, it is easy to make such system with no moving parts (passive cooling and SSD). Any professional knows how big advantage this is.

If all of this happens (and you say it will), Windows system (with OS costs included) will be cheapest, and very reliable solution.

Regards
 
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on December 18, 2011, 07:14:30 AM
Actually... we have some BIG surprises in 3.1 that we did not announce yet that will change all that ;)
Good news coming in early Feb.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: conexia on December 18, 2011, 08:40:49 AM
Any clue about what's coming, please?
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on December 19, 2011, 10:29:33 AM
Follow us on twitter to get the latest updates and news  ;)
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: itehno on December 22, 2011, 04:05:00 AM
I would bet on Android ....
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on December 22, 2011, 12:17:15 PM
Check this post

http://script.mediasignage.com/forum/index.php/topic,1332.0.html
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: criley on July 15, 2012, 08:01:38 PM
That topic seems to have been removed. Any update to this as 4.0 is soon to be released? MediaBox vs Mac Mini. Who wins here or are we now on a level playing field when it comes to the SignagePlayer? Also on a side note, what about other players out there?
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: warwickwater on July 19, 2012, 04:23:01 PM
Our experience is that Windows 'just works' mostly, and when it does break, the knowledge is there to fix it. The PC spec is also a little misleading in that is depends on what you are doing onscreen. We run 720p HD video almost full screen, with a largely static text bar at the bottom, on little HP Microserver boxes ($150 after rebate, plus a copy of Windows) and they are fine - all on a dual core 1.5G CPU.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on July 19, 2012, 04:35:07 PM
I can't reveal too much info yet, but can say we will soon have a player that's 1/2 the price and x2 the power of any competitor with full feature set ;)
It will not replace the mediaBOX as it will be a low end player.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: KRob on September 18, 2012, 09:00:19 AM
I realize this is an old post.. but had to stick up for Mac.  I'm definitely not a "Mac fanatic" by any means... they have their advantages over PCs, but also some disadvantages.  However - for those of us in any sort of digital media field - Mac is FAR superior, and you'll find that the vast majority of digital artists use a Mac. Most (if not all) higher learning institutions teaching digital media also use Mac.  So I understand some hate it for whatever reason... but it's importance and value should still be considered.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: admin on September 18, 2012, 11:13:00 AM
The topic is about computers running the signage player application, not for content creation which Macs excels in.
Title: Re: MAC mini vs mediaBOX
Post by: KRob on September 18, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
I realize that.  I was replying to a previous statement that was made.