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So what do you guys think of the new Scheduler (grouping sequences)?
I know many of you were requesting enhanced scheduling and wanted to get some feedback.

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Re: So what do you guys think of the new Scheduler (grouping sequences)?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2014, 10:49:23 AM »
It's pretty cool. I find that it simplifies a few other processes which should make it faster to assemble presentations.

Thanks!  ;D

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Re: So what do you guys think of the new Scheduler (grouping sequences)?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 01:50:40 PM »
Here are some observations that, unfortunately, reveal some major shortcomings with the new scheduler. 

PLEASE read the following conversation I had with Tech Support.  I hope that you can understand what is trying to be articulated here.  If not, please, please contact me so I can try to explain.  THANK YOU!!!

14:44 Ray: The schedulder has been set up assuming that a sequence or timeline will play out for however long and by setting a higher priority on a certain day or time to interrupt and play something different and then revert back. This poses a huge problem for businesses that operate 24 hours a day and need lots of different timelines that are product/service time sensitive to play.
14:46 Stein S: im not sure i understand. so what are you not able to do with the current setup?
14:48 Ray: Ok, timeline 1 will play for two minutes and does not contain any time sensitive items. Timeline 2 is simply a Happy Thanksgiving and will need to play from now until midnight of Nov. 28. I create sequence 1 with timeline 1 and sequence 2 with timeline 2 (the Thanksgiving item).
14:49 Ray: I want to run sequence 1 from now until June of 2015 and run sequence 2 from now until Nov 28, 2014.
14:50 Stein S: do you need to play timeline 1 for two minutes then timeline 2after? and the two of them repeating one after the other until nov 28?
14:50 Ray: If each sequence is only two minutes in length for a total of four minutes, how do I add them to the scheduler so that they play one after the other every day until sequence 2 expires.
14:51 Ray: See, we really need a scheduler that acts more like a sequencer.
14:52 Ray: ...and allows many sequenced to be scheduled with start/stop days and time and then added to a playlist.
14:54 Stein S: we can only have sequences scheduled on specific dates and times
14:55 Ray: Ok, but what if the total time between two sequences is only 4 minutes in a 24 hour period. How do you get the two sequences to repeat one after the other for the whole 24 hour period.
14:57 Ray: This is where a playlist would make a lot of sense.
14:57 Stein S: what you need to do is add all the timelines in a single sequence
15:02 Ray: I see what you are suggesting. Add all timelines to seq 1 and schedule it until Nov. 28th so the Happy Thanksgiving plays until then. Then add seq 2 with all timelines except the Thanksgiving and schedule it to play from the 28th on.
15:11 Ray: ...NOW, try this with 10 items that expire at different times in a 10 day period. Talk about everything getting very difficult to keep track of. NOW, multiply this scenario by 20 different clients or campaigns. This is why I say that a sequence or timeline should have all of the start/stop time parameters and then be added to a playlist that plays them all out according to those time parameters. When one expires, it just drops off the playlist.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2014, 01:56:27 PM by IPNDDS »

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Re: So what do you guys think of the new Scheduler (grouping sequences)?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2014, 12:47:22 PM »
I totally agree With The previous speaker.
The ssolution provided today is making it all to Complicated.
The enhanced scheduling that many of us has been asking for would still be The best way to go for most of us.

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Re: So what do you guys think of the new Scheduler (grouping sequences)?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2014, 05:37:21 PM »
The current capabilities of the scheduler / sequencer combination covers the vast majority of what clients require when it comes to maintaining a flexible playback pattern while keeping the UI simple enough for most to learn at a relative short time.
Even if we added a scheduler playlist as you suggested, this would not be maintainable as multiplying such a configuration by hundreds of items and dozens of timeliens with expiring content would still be unmanageable.
I would agree that the current setup does not cover every possible scenario and that is exactly the reason why we developed the Pepper API, so users that need extremely elaborate configuration could programmatically create such setups programmatically.
Also, using Pepper, you could track, report, update and expire content all via set rules set by you and powered by a Javascript pepper backend (i.e.: node.js running pepper). While the learning curve of JS / Pepper is higher, this will ultimately yield the best solution for elaborate configs such as the one you described.
Regards,
Sean.

 

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